Leah Remini talks about Lisa Marie Presley, Scientology Deaths and Suicides on her new Podcast, Scientology: Fair Game

If you are an Elvis or Presley family fan, get ready!

We are about to go DEEP!

I told you about Leah Remini and Mike Render's new podcast, Scientology:Fair Game.

A new episode just dropped and it is about the suicide of Lisa Marie's son Ben Keough and the church of Scientology.

In addition to the death of Kelly Preston. But you'll have to listen for yourself.

I'm just talking about the Presley family here.

This is honest and raw, not tabloid gossip.

It is from Leah's and Mike's personal dealings with Lisa Marie and her family and the church.

This will give you more understanding from a Scientologist member's perspective.

It is an insight into the church and it's methods dealing with children, celebrity, and addiction.

Alright here we go......Buckle Up!

Leah refers to Lisa Marie as Lisa Presley. Leah reached out to Lisa Marie when she heard the tragic news of Ben's passing.

She has not heard back as of yet.

Leah wants everyone to know that their hearts go out to Lisa, Priscilla, Riley, and Danny who Leah says is getting lost in this like he is a non entity as Ben's father and is also a Scientologist.

Leah says the hardest part about all of this is when you want to be there for your friend and you can not because of the church's forced policy of disconnection with anyone who has left the church.

Leah left the church in 2013 after being a church member since childhood.

Leah says she was friends with Lisa Marie.

Behind the scenes, Lisa was a big part of pushing Leah leaving the church.

And then Lisa disappeared.

Leah talks about looking over old emails and came across one from Lisa in which Lisa says she tweeted out a Guns and Roses song.

Lisa tells her it was directed at Scientology and asks Leah to Retweet it.

She also says in BOLD LETTERS, DO NOT SAY THAT THIS HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH SCIENTOLOGY.

Leah responds by saying, But we have to stand for something Lisa.

And Lisa said, DO NOT SAY THAT I AM DIRECTING THIS AT SCIENTOLOGY. They Know!

Leah says Lisa wanted to push everyone out into the front but she personally didn't want to take any of the punishment that goes along with being public about leaving Scientology.

Scientologists believe that if they are consuming too much alcohol or drugs that they can do the church's purification run down which gets rid of all the toxins in your body and basically resets the body to be completely clean. And then people start to drink or do drugs again believing they cleared their systems of anything they did prior.

Leah says she knows Lisa Marie believed in this program.

Not only did Lisa believe in it for herself but also for her children.

Leah had a conversation with Lisa Marie saying maybe you want to do something outside of Scientology, sending her links and information.

Telling Lisa to look at other books on depression and mental illness.

Lisa Marie rejected it all.

Leah says Lisa Marie believes wholeheartedly in certain aspects of Scientology.

Mike says, he could also give similar examples of what Leah is talking about which happened between him and Lisa Marie.

He mentions different examples of getting stories out about Scientology and Lisa prompting him to contact media outlets.

Mike says, well why don't you do that. Why don't you call them.

Lisa would say, No, I want you to call them.

And as for her wholehearted belief in the purification process, Mike says it's not limited to Lisa, there are a lot of people who have bought into this.

They believe this is the ultimate solution to addiction.

They believe they can rid of that and then go on a binge and then go do the purif and it's like the binge never happened, Mike explains.

Scientology and Children

Leah was raised in Scientology so she has first hand experience growing up in the church.

She talks about how church members do not raise their children.

She goes on to say her primary caretaker as a child was Scientology.

So if you have a child who is drinking or taking drugs, you would write a report on your child and send them to Scientology to be parented by them with Scientology technology.

Leah goes on to say, they come down pretty hard on the child, not taking into consideration adolescence, no knowledge of mental health. And that is how most Scientology children are raised. Scientology parents house and feed their children, they even take them places but they do not parent their children. 

Scientology children spend their days and nights at the church. 8 hours or more a day.

Scientology parents really have no hand in raising their children.

Leah explains, this is what happened with Lisa Marie when she was a young person where she was dropped off at celebrity center.

She says, listen Priscilla was a child herself when her parents dropped her off to Elvis. She wasn't parented either. And therefore did not know how to parent Lisa.

Priscilla sent Lisa to be raised and fixed by Scientology.

And that is what you have to understand, there is no parenting going on.

Mike adds that children are considered adults according to the church. They are adults with little bodies.

Children are not considered different. L. Ron Hubbard did not consider things such as adolescence.

Children are punished as adults, talked to as adults, there is no difference. Leah points out.

Mike says, Scientologist are taught, you KNOW everything. If you read something L. Ron Hubbard says, you're an expert on the subject.

Read what L. Ron had to say about something and it gives you certainty, complete knowledge and you do not have to know anything else.

That is how children are raised in Scientology, Mike says.

Depression and the church of Scientology

Scientology does not believe in depression. They do not even use the word, depression. Leah explains that if you were to say you were depressed as a Scientologist, you would be thoroughly punished immediately. You would be pulled off your spiritual path and dealt with. It is not a condition that the church acknowledges. And they want you to stop using that word.

You will be shamed for saying it and for feeling it. How incredibly tragic is that?

So children in the church learn early on to shove down and lie about their condition and feelings because you will be punished for this.

Mike says depression is said to be a psychiatric trick. One in which psychiatrists label them in order to sell drugs for big pharma.

Remember when Lisa Marie testified in 2002 in front of Congress 

He continues, it is not viewed as a validate condition. It is viewed as "fake news" and just a way for psychiatrists to control them and ultimately destroy them.

Scientology is not FAITH BASED

Scientology is not faith based. It is laid out exactly how you are supposed to read certain things, listen to tapes and you must prepay. It is a business Leah reminds us.

It is nothing like any other religion ever.

And Leah says, there is no other religion that has a department dedicated to destroying people when they speak out against it

She also says something beyond scary. She says mostly everything you read or listen to, most of the teachings tell you that the psychiatrists are to blame for the Holocaust, for a crime, for wars and all of man's ills.

Leah asks Mike why this is.

And here is why we love Mike, he also has the exact answer with all the facts.

Mike says because in 1950, when L. Ron Hubbard wrote Dianetics, he sought the approval of the American Psychiatric Association and the American Medical Association.

Leah jumps in to add, that in Dianetics, L. Ron Hubbard claims he can cure Cancer, blindness, deafness, anything.Dianetics says you can solve anything.

Mike continues and says neither association would back him. And for that, they became the enemy of L. Ron and Scientology. Every cult needs an enemy.

Children are learning this. They have to read Dianetics and they learn to believe Depression doesn't exist, I won't get Cancer, etc. Many won't seek Medical attention.

Children learn to hide what they are really feeling and dealing with. Sometimes pretty serious situations in their lives.

The Scientology thoughts on Autism is truly disgusting. Listen for yourself.

Mike and Leah say their hearts go out to Lisa and her family. They want the public to know this is not just a topic in the media for them. They knew this family and their hearts break for them. These were friends, people who they knew well.

I suggest listening to the full podcast yourself wherever you listen to your favorite podcasts.

I may come back and add more after my next listen.

To go even deeper into this subject, check out Mike Render's blog - Scientology Deaths and Suicides