Scientology: Fair Game - A New Podcast From Leah Remini and Mike Rinder

I love a good podcast for long days in the sun. And this came at just the right time. I have read 5 books in the last two weeks. My eyes need a rest!

While searching for a good podcast, I stumbled upon this. I am very picky about my podcasts. I like True Crime and I like it sounding professional, very well researched and quality guests.

This podcast checked all the boxes.

In fact, I listened to the first episode TWICE so far.

If you watched Leah Remini and Mike Render's show on A & E, Scientology and the aftermath, you are ahead of the game.

If you haven't seen it, it is a MUST as I have said in the past.

Listening to the podcast alone is not enough. So if you have not seen the show or you're diving deep here like myself, the show is streaming on Hulu. This Podcast digs a bit deeper. It's like the companion book. You need both!

What is Fair Game?

A term used to describe the taking care of "Threats and enemies" of Scientology.

Mike Render explains, what it really is, is a series of writings/directives of L. Ron Hubbard on how you go about destroying someone who is an enemy of Scientology. The enemy would be anyone who speaks out about Scientology in a way which is not authorized or seeks to expose the organization.

Leah asks Mike if family members who do a welfare check on their loved ones in the church are "Fair Game".

Mike's answer, Absolutely!

Mike Render was the head of the department which implemented these activities so he shares his knowledge from his own experience as a former church member.

Leah goes on to talk about how Scientology claims that the practice of Fair Game has been cancelled. She says they have even given the media a copy of that. Mike says the cancellation is a statement made by L. Ron Hubbard that says, "We are no longer going to use the term Fair Game because it creates bad public relations. However, we do not change how we deal with the enemies of Scientology."

Leah points out the media never understood or cared to elaborate on the full statement which says they just aren't going to use that term but they will continue to practice it. Typical of the media!

Leah says L. Ron Hubbard felt anyone who spoke out against Scientology was evil and trying to destroy mankind. And anyone who goes against the church is a criminal.

She explains that when L. Ron writes something, it has to be understood exactly how it was written.

A lot of what Mike Render talks about is only known by sea org members not all church members.

All church members are expected to know all the policies and writings of L. Ron Hubbard and his church. So as Scientologists they have to make that TRUE. Meaning that anyone who speaks out against the church, Scientologists must make them an enemy of the church. And that's ALL Scientologists even the celebrity Scientologists.

Leah and Mike are doing this podcast to give a voice to those who didn't have one. And before their weekly show on A & E and now podcast, we really only heard whispers or rumors about alleged abuse by the church. No one had the B@lls Leah has to stand up against the church because of the practices of Fair Game. People were scared and intimidated and just so happy to be free, they lived in silence.

Mike also makes it very clear that this could happen to anyone. It did not just happen to weirdos. And watching the show, you see these victims are average people. Nice, decent, SANE, hard working Americans.

Leah brings up the subject of their show on A & E (Not my favorite network after cancelling LIVE PD) and how Scientology claims to have had the show cancelled.

She challenges the church by saying, if they are admitting to their Fair Game tactic, keep it coming because if you are claiming responsibility, the law suits will be huge for claiming responsibility for getting Mike and I fired.

Leah and Mike are constantly working to help victims. They meet with the FBI, local police, and families.

They are educating law enforcement on how the church will try to evade criminal charges.

Their dedication is limitless. Despite the fact that they are victims of the Fair Game practices along with any victims who have spoken out.

Leah and Mike will also discuss the 3 counts of rape charges against actor and church member Danny Masterson in upcoming podcasts. Leah says they had already done interviews with the alleged victims four years ago. They did a finale with a victim who was not a Scientologist.

With the case coming up in LA court in September, Mike says the person who did the interviews on Masterson and some of the victims will be shipped off to another country, "reassigned" to jurisdictions outside of the LA district attorney's office.

Some may even already be on the Free winds ship in the middle of the ocean to avoid speaking with law enforcement and will be on that ship for at least the next 5 years. Now all witnesses can't disappear and the church is too smart for this. So now anyone else who may be a witness will be drilled with an attorney to say positive things. You really have to hear Mike explain this and you have to hear it in detail. It's really manipulative.

 "The Folders"

Mike explains when something like the above allegation comes up, everyone who knows anything is gathered together and everyone else is told to shut up.

The church is then able to control the information from getting out to law enforcement or even media.

The victims are then interrogated. He explains the concept of Scientology is whatever happens to you is a result of your own misdeeds.

Leah goes on to give examples of how that interrogation would go down. It's shameful. And how it would be turned around that it was the victim's fault for something that went on in this lifetime or another lifetime.

So in other words, you were raped and it is your own fault.

WOW! And this is a "church".

With the #metoo movement all a rage in Hollyweirdland, this is acceptable.

Mike explains that the victim is the first to be "dealt with" and once you get the victim to understand that they are responsible, they caused this to happen, they will not go running to law enforcement.

Typical abusive behavior!

The victim is now contained. We learn there is a current civil suit against Scientologist about "fair Gaming" victims.

Lisa McPherson

Leah asks Mike to talk about Lisa McPherson who was a young Scientologist in Clearwater, Fl who died in 1995.

The people who knew what happened and how she died were rounded up and evidence destroyed. L. Ron's policy was everything had to be in written.

So there was a folder on Lisa which was shredded.

The witnesses in contact with Lisa were maids at the hotel of Scientology in Florida.

They were not nurses or even trained as maids.

They were from third world countries brought over to clean rooms and ended up with the job of watching over this dying young woman.

Once Lisa died, these women were gathering up and sent home to avoid them testifying on what happened.

Church of Scientology's THREE PPP Loans

As if you are not already outraged, we learn that the church has taken out THREE PPP loans during the pandemic. Mike says whenever anyone tries to make the church take responsibility for their employees, the church says they are volunteers not employees. Talk about having your cake and eating it too.

Leah is totally outraged by this. She says while small businesses are going out of business and people can't eat, the church a 3 billion dollar for profit cult had the balls to take out THREE PPP loans during a pandemic.

Mike says the church told the IRS the church is not a business. These loans come from the SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION to assist SMALL businesses.

Mike isn't surprised, he says it's just Scientology up to it's old tricks.

Leah says this church doesn't help the needy, feed the homeless yet they don't pay taxes.

They claim they don't have employees. Things that make you go, hmmm....

Upcoming on The Podcast

This podcast will allow Leah and Mike to talk in depth about things they weren't able to talk about on The Aftermath.

FBI raid in 1977

IRs vs. Scientology

Rape Charges against Danny Masterson

Kristy Alley

Aftermath guests with NEW stuff!

Benjamin Keough's suicide

You have to listen for yourself. I have only given you a few bites. The podcast itself is much more detailed. So Subscribe today wherever you listen to your favorite podcasts.